Gene: 0:14

This is Sergine and joining me today, and we have Dr. Sarah Sun Yu who is running for office in California. We're going to find out all about her and why she decided to run. Welcome Dr. Yu.

Dr. Sarah Sun Liew: 0:30

Thank you so much. Invite your show.

Gene: 0:33

And I guess let's start off by having you tell the folks a little bit more about yourself. Okay.

Dr. Sarah Sun Liew: 0:41

amm for US Senator in California. I'm so, thank you for this opportunity to talk need your audience. If you someone who wanted to know about one, he please ww Senator, Senator more deeply. Myself, I'm a pastor and, founder as well as several company CEOs. Yeah, I do. In Pentech company, credit card processing, real estate investment brokerage and management company, CEO as well as the I am the legal professional company, CEO. We do regards as well as the immigration consultant, and I have a, been in school, a nonprofit, five ship. Tech business school, Meridian Institution Technology, as well as Meridian Business Legal Investment Research Foundation, as well as Global Jesus Mission Church Senior Pastor, I have three non profit I'm learning, yeah. Thank you so much, yeah.

Gene: 1:42

Lots of stuff there. So what district are you running for? Where do you live in California?

Dr. Sarah Sun Liew: 1:47

Oh, yeah, I have been long for U. S. Congress. We have to shake third since 2019 and 2020. To election is on U. S. Senate. Senate actually does not had a got to shake as well as I had a 2024 long for same U. S. Senate. We don't have to shake, but only Congress has when I was a lot later. Yes.

Gene: 2:15

yeah. I thought you were running for Congress. You're running for Senate. Okay. Got it. Got it. Well, we're, we're in California. Are you located?

Dr. Sarah Sun Liew: 2:22

Yeah, I have been many years in many area in California from like, Los Angeles, Beverly Hills, and as well as North California Sunny Valley, and San Jose, Silicon Valley. As well as many in Beverly Hills. But I have several business in Beverly Hills and Victor be, so I have two office, uh, as a US Senate candidate office in Beverly Hills main office and as well as Victor office. Yeah.

Gene: 2:52

Okay. And how long ago did you decide you were going to run for office?

Dr. Sarah Sun Liew: 2:57

Before I learning of this first 2019 I been like number of founder. I dealing many, many other issues, but I had so many people in our surround their political leaders in you know, motivation to meet to learn. So, being like, almost seven years, eight years, as well as my family had a you know, background, all the political. So when I grew up in even young age I was thinking one day I want to support country as political leader. I looked my life map my age of 49 years. I was going to learn some office, but I forgot. But how, however, Exactly 49 years old, I was running U. S. Congress. Yeah,

Gene: 3:45

Got it. Well, I'm sure people hear your accent. So, where are you from originally?

Dr. Sarah Sun Liew: 3:50

yeah, I am from South Korea, South Korea, and I born in Andong, very scholars you know, areas as well as political areas. In my Andong countryside, had a full president Born and grew up you know, like one hour's area in Korean president all grew up that area. So, so my country side in Andong, very, very political areas. Yeah.

Gene: 4:19

Mm. Okay. Very, very good. And then, um, what what year did you come to the U. S.?

Dr. Sarah Sun Liew: 4:28

Oh, yeah, I came to here 2095. After a graduation a lot away from my master's degree in Anyang University Theology School, I was a pastor, education pastor. My school, university is very biblical, very conservative. The, who founded my university is who really supporting Norah Reagan. Present you know, the day he's preliminary, present. He was preaching and rest. His he was founded our public our theological school sending me to go to the you know, england or you know, United States, I choose United States coming to as a pastor. And you know, they wanted to me become you know, professor in our university. So I have many people, professor and school, like, chairman sent it to me here to his friend you know, church in Wilshire and Normandy. There is a big Wilshire church and I I was came here and as, as well as I came here as a student, uh, in Cal State long Beach English Leader letter. Yeah.

Gene: 5:44

So, I, I missed was it you said 2000, what year? 2004.

Dr. Sarah Sun Liew: 5:51

19 1995.

Gene: 5:52

Well, 1995. Okay.

Dr. Sarah Sun Liew: 5:54

Yeah, about like 30 about 30 years. Yeah. 31 years, yes. Years ago. Yeah.

Gene: 6:00

then so you, you were working on your master's at that point or your

Dr. Sarah Sun Liew: 6:04

I, I, graduation master migration certifications is 1996. Graduation, but I finished early than 1996. So my school sent me in 1995 or two. To the here. But anyway, I already finished before that. So my, yeah, yeah, I finished and they come to America. Yeah,

Gene: 6:28

Okay. And you, you have a doctorate right now.

Dr. Sarah Sun Liew: 6:32

yeah, I have a several doctoral degree. I have a PhD sales and marketing as well as a PhD biblical preaching as well as a doctor of business administration, uh, international business, it commercial, as well as I started at the Harvard graduation. How about business school? And the graduation. Harvard ed gradation Education School. Like how about gradation education School? Well, how about Kennedy School gradation? I'm not. I studied at the Harvard Business School three years. Kennedy School is two years and graduation school is two years joined law school you know, computer science for attorney or legal professional. So we, I had a study at the. About the law school as well as, and then I started out Abraham Lincoln law school and Judy doctoral course as well as several like, you know, past speak law school. I study paralegal and LDA and we got professional courses as well.

Gene: 7:38

Wow, that's a lot of different things. Were you were you planning on being a minister that whole time? Or were you trying to figure out what you wanted to do in the future?

Dr. Sarah Sun Liew: 7:50

Oh yeah, the, this is my age, 19 1999. My age eight year of 1990. My age 19 years old. I already studied my bachelor degree seminary in theology school. And I studied as a as assistant pastor and I become like a, a pastor. And my life is, until now, is a pastor. That is my main my living purpose of serving God and community. All things, another thing, school, all business, all things, just extra God's blessing. So I am, you know, good things too I can do. All other things to supporting a God and community as well, business and nonprofit, not only through church. So, you know, my main needs of. As long as I'm living in the world, you know, I will do my first job is pastor, but whatever God plan, you know, our life is for God, right? So God plan as a political, God plan as an educator, but God plan as a, you know, the, any other. Professional jobs. He allowed me to support America and God. I will just obey. Yeah, that's my main philosophy. Yeah.

Gene: 9:15

Now, you're running as a Republican in California, so that, that's gotta be a little more difficult than being a Democrat in California. Um, how I guess let's, let's start with, have you always been a Republican? Have you been a Democrat previously and then changed to Republican like some people what's been your political stance over the years?

Dr. Sarah Sun Liew: 9:36

Oh yeah, I have been independent too, before learning US Senate 2019, but I was very you know, impressed Donald, President Donald Trump, that time is President Donald Trump was impeached you know, so many happening in my district you know, congressman is Ted Lee, and Was against the you know, many other like the public leader especially Donald Trump. So I wasn't thinking is it Donald Trump is business man never had a experience. I, and he's a construction and developer. My grandfather was a construction developer. He's all the pre a C4. He build a. So I had a common background that business as a business woman, I see the our great President Donald Trump how even business man. Able to be the best political leader. So I was very impressed his achievement during those Donald Trump achieved. Well, he was, spoke to many time well as myself. Very interesting in the California Republic party platforms, they're always support, education, support, freedom of choice of health as well. You know, a lot of economic growth, innovations, as well as reform, a lot of safety and working family, homeowners, and many policies for supporting farmers, ranchers, and as well as many they are really talk about integrity of elections. So, all the California Republic Party platform is make me. You know, I like conservative. I like biblical value. I like those republic identity. So. Become like in, become, in independent to, uh, become like a Republican? Yes, but I never been I never been democratic yet.

Gene: 11:40

So you were just less political in the past. And then in in 2019, about five years ago, you started becoming more political. Is that correct?

Dr. Sarah Sun Liew: 11:50

Not really because before I learning Congress, I was learning us I learning u Los City Council. I was learning paper, his commissioner. So I've been like because I've been. Not just that time political before that. I see many, many local issues is like homeless issue. You know, that was a motivation to me because 2000 18. We have a special situation in Koreatown and I had a homeless shelter build about many people. They fight against build the homeless that time. I'm a pastor. I was motivation to why people does not. Wanted to settle in that area. I was nonprofit founder as well, so I was deeply those you know, homeless issues. So, even I'm, I was in paper, his district is I think she for that who was David U Korean David U was learning city council. And I wasn't learning, but I, I did not learn completely because of I changed as a Congress because I don't want to against my. Korean who, who already been city city, you know, council, so I just support him and I learning Congress instead as well as I am more interesting federal level than local level, but I always dealing like meeting, you know, you know, city meeting and Beverly Hills had a, you know, beautiful meeting every week. We have a meeting in Beverly Hills, the city mayor meeting. We are learning with the city mayor.

Gene: 13:30

Oh, you, you, I think you hit, yeah. You went mute temporarily there.

Dr. Sarah Sun Liew: 13:35

Oh, yes. So,

Gene: 13:36

So I, I'm missing like the last 30 seconds, whatever you were saying. Mm-Hmm.

Dr. Sarah Sun Liew: 13:40

yeah, the, the, the things is the mayor, we had a meeting every week at that time, especially need meeting, need a mayor, worker, worker need the mayor, and sometimes Los Angeles, uh, you know, mayor coming as well as join. So I had a little bit warm up before I learning for Congress. I was during many, many meeting many years meeting. For Beverly Hills political, like they they asked me to learn for commissioner commissioner as, as well as so, that's why I was learning commissioner Beverly Hills so public public yes, that, that, that is one I have a background as well as my my own background. I was in 2007, six, I met three presidents. One is six is Clinton, President Clinton, President Bush, three. And 2007, I met Donald Trump but he, he's not the president, but anyway, so. When I met at President Clinton and Bush, that time we have Florida. I think Hurricane Maria happens. We build we, we are joined national National Literature Association. We joined together president coming there. They are working together. I was thinking that time, oh, really great president, two Democrat and Republican, two president coming. That time is, I think, Obama, President Obama was sitting, but all the all the president, they are working together to support to the hurricane you know, disaster you know, we build it together house, we had a meeting together, like, in front of president to be, be to present talk about all things to be, I, I was joined that meeting, invited the meeting. And I, I had a many invited meeting, like, like example. I had already you know, met President Donald Trump I four times. And next month I have February, not this month, February 16th I invited his house is Palm Beach, Florida Florida, you know, we, we, we have certain people in California. We. invited. So this is my fifth time being president. So I am like also locally as a non profit founder. And also my grandfather was political leaders. He was independent you know, activist in Korea, very famous person UDMP. He, he support UDMP. He founded together. When the first Korean you know, political foundation Liberty Labor Party. So I grew up in my uncle was coming graduation Berkeley bachelor and master doctor economist and how about the business school? Professor, as well as Oklahoma are professing economic you know, professor, he was a commissioner traffic commissioner in federal about, and my uncle, another uncle was. Chairman in economic department in Korea, as well as the defense department in Korea. So I was staying with my uncle when I was a middle school, high school vacation. I always just support his political activation, as well as my father and my mother. In home country, Korea, they have register farmer. I see. How, how he management in the government. Like example, I support California water shortage. And you know, I, I, I have him early in, early age. My age, middle school, high school. My father was always political. Uh uh, big under. City and asking government to make them. Actually, we made them in EMA them in under our ability. You know, all the become like dams. So I see how my father was a political leader in farmer industry. So I know how important in California. Farm industries for 75 percent water need a farm using and 25 percent or only using water. So I grew up that way and then as well as my family is all the educator, even my my family that mostly just stay in the army, 20 years, 26 years, my brother and my uncle. As well as my older family is there almost 20 more doctors, they are economists, one of the sample example is the success is who is a cure. Second, the largest husband, uh, founder you know, John, you who are trusting Chicago University, and he donation 20 million, 20 million in Chicago University you know, and is by naming the use of scholars use family scholarship, and he was, he's always trustee. And I, so I see. And then Professor Jimmy, the John Hopkins business school for, uh, you know, Andrew u is professor in ela, the chair vice chair in Oklahoma University medic medicine, you know, department. So as in Korea, many, many professor, many, many doctors and attorneys or Judas, all the, you know, we, we are very successful. As well as my, my uncle or my father or my grandfather or, so we have a heritage mission to do. That's why I think already grew up in political background. Yeah.

Gene: 19:35

I see. Okay. Yeah. So you, uh, you certainly, yeah. It sounds like you grew up with with a bit of, uh, interest in politics because your family connection there. Um, so since you're running as a Republican in California. What do you think is going to be your, your most difficult thing to overcome in the next election cycle? Because obviously California right now has got, um, you know, it's predominantly a California voting state. There are. But certainly the closer to the coast you get, the more in the cities you are, the percentage of Democrat voters goes way up and Republican voters goes down. So what do you think is your biggest challenge running there as a Republican?

Dr. Sarah Sun Liew: 20:27

Oh, I don't think so. I have a challenge because you know, I, learning for officer is not just a, a calculation of number. My philosophy to learning for your sanity. I think we have each party had a different voice like in house. We have a father's position voice and mother's position voice so different voice. If more strong people want population people because of we afraid that we don't do our own voice. This is already fair. So I know this California already. Blue state like many blue state Israelis nowadays more like people they want to invest in or they want to invest in blue state make blue state like I saw last, you know, use that as a, you know, big donor, they want to make even Texas become from the latest state to blue state nowadays you know why this is a really, you know, large. Yeah. You know, party is a civil disagreement, which is a democratic and the public, but as I'm a candidate, you are Senate. I will. I think that bipartisan is so important to issue making in Congress as well as even we are. You know, part of a Republican. So whatever we are part of you know, Republican platforms, you know, very conservative. Every you know, we are California is, you know, looking for affordable everyone as well as many, many other issues is really right in California, you know, Republican value, Republican identity. So, you know, life is always changing. History always changing. Even example in February, third. Third was Republic, now is Democrat. Some, you know, other there was you know, democratic one now is the Republic. So we, we have to always be hopeful. To, you know, you know, to, you know, changing the history, it's better, I think, in California, wherever we are, value one party and one another party, so we are focused on people still helping people, you know, we need to really focus on that. Voice on it. Always. Don't stop voice. We think this is learning for U. S. Senate or learning for any office to make voice message to write things. I am not gonna stop that. Yeah.

Gene: 23:10

Okay. But the last Republican that was elected from California to Senate. Was it in John Seymour in 1991? So you've got 30 years of Democrats basically running California Senate. So that's why I'm asking what, what do you see as your biggest difficulty in coming in and getting people to vote for you as a Republican? Because for 30 years, they've only voted for Democrats for Senate.

Dr. Sarah Sun Liew: 23:38

Yeah, this is Democrat. They had a plan and plan and plan, like, like example nine Biden illustration even allowed the illegal immigrations. They are looking for the illegal immigration border. So we have to really build those because of, you know, we had a election integrity. So, you know, we, we should make sure that we. Citizens can able to vote for, but nowadays we did not know. Even they don't show the id, they don't show anything. You know, they can even vote for California and the leaders. So we have to really build a do the you know, election integrity is so important too. So I think unless election integrity is built really clearly because last year. Last you know, 2019, even our great President Donald Trump was lost. He always talk about the fraudulent and, you know, stealing those voting counting is wrong. So in California, we don't know, you know, many, many congressional districts even I heard you know, those election integrity. Was missing because of, you know, all the ballot mail ballot, they don't know, you don't know who really counting

Gene: 25:02

Well, but none of, none of that has changed since the last election. So you're going to have to deal with all of that as well. In California. I, I believe this is the case. I, I don't live there, so I haven't looked into it but I believe from what I've read in California, you don't have to show that you're a citizen of the country in order in able to get a ballot.

Dr. Sarah Sun Liew: 25:24

yeah, even, you know,

Gene: 25:25

can show up and just get a ballot and

Dr. Sarah Sun Liew: 25:27

know, yeah, yeah, that's right, you know, even people, they are in the army, you know, military, but someone asked to get the doors about that, and then they can vote. So that's the, that's the integrity. You know, I, we really need to build the election integrity. I think we should you know, signature verifications need a I. D. and the photo I. D. is, you know, or so that's why we have to balance in prevention in elections, you know, to stealing support in our county, like, Los Angeles County or San Bernardino County, any county they should really You know, inactivation, agitation, through the activations in need verification, you know, every time is data update, uh, but that data is not updated. That's why they send the mail all of long place, but people, they are intentionally, they can make a to those broadly, you know, transaction to any person can sign, you know, so that that's the problem. So we should. Increase participation border as well as even we have a many, many Republican. Even they don't vote. So that's that's the one another reason to be a Republican does not win as well as independent to you know, party as well as needed to really independent person as well as consideration, really who is a Republic, who is Democrats. So they You know, very over on Republican identity, Republican platforms. I like it if I have a lot of platform like I myself was independent and I become Republican. So I think we have to overcome those long term responsibility. Star warships, California, those borough, you know, we have to really resource to an easy registration registration for voting, but we do photo ID. And then we have the in person, you know, go to those locations, more and more included encourage it to go voting location to show the identity instead, instead of ever some border or instead of, you know, mail ballot. Yeah,

Gene: 27:52

Yeah. So, how do you get Californians to stop voting Democrats? I mean, it's a question I think a lot of people like to know what do you think is going to be the best way to get people to vote for more Republicans in California?

Dr. Sarah Sun Liew: 28:07

so I think the message is important to because so many people, even they don't know what platforms the public can have what platform democracy. Yeah, so we have to more like a. Abrogated to like a candidate, go out and speak out to what who is be public on what is the value on the public. I already said it to the public. There are many, many opportunity creations. through their platforms for family first, God first, and you know, business first. So we have so many Republican Party very officially, you know, we can access as well as supporting many, many economic and job creations, energies, you know, foreign policies, immigrations, all those those things is not really. Healthcare, as well as, you know, government transparency transparency. All those are fighting, you know, they don't really know about. So that's why we should Republican had a should have more education tool or platforms to people make decision to better vote for Republican. But at this point they have it, but we, I think we need more like advocate, yeah.

Gene: 29:28

Okay. And then, so I assume that's what you're trying to do with your campaign.

Dr. Sarah Sun Liew: 29:32

Yeah, I do. I always go out to speech at the party. Like a public party they invited me many, many place like example I went to even last two weeks I went to like a about seven meeting, go out to speech you know. Backers build a woman better a meeting. I went Orange County public meeting. I went to a cent Santa Monica Republic party. I went to a bench or a party. You know, I went to many, many places. Last last two weeks they invited. So I have planned to go you know, more yet.

Gene: 30:09

hmm. Okay. Got it. And, um, why did you decide to run for U. S. Senate rather than for a California local office or even like governor of California or, or maybe a senator of the state of California or something? Why did you decide you wanted to run for U. S. Senate right away?

Dr. Sarah Sun Liew: 30:31

Oh yeah. That's the, that's the good question. You know, when I met people. Even, you know, congresswoman Michelle Stills husband Sean still asked me. We met several times, still meeting I invited there meeting, he's told me that Why don't you learn local office first and then go to the, you know, go to the upper level. I, I will, I, I, you know, recommend you learn you know, education program. So, he told, he told me, I say, because I understand what you say, because your wife for Michelle Congresswoman Michelle still learning, you know, you know, the low part to offer patents. Now, I understand it take like 20, 30 years. She was young starting, but I am now, you know, when I learning 49 years old, I wasn't Decide, learn to local. I learned two time even Los Angeles City Council, and I was dealing with the Los Angeles issue. When I was learning February, he is a commissioner. That time is I, I will dealing February. Yes. And then, you know, to my education, my background, I am more globally because I'm running a big tech company. We are processing 147 countries, very globalized, and my major study is also global. Static international, you know, business trade. I studied all the different international as well as I treat, you know, like example to three years ago, I went 14 different Europe country another years ago, go to the 78 Asian country. And not only this is first time. I've been many, many time in domestic all of. California domestic all over the United States, like more than 10 times because of my business. I recruiting many people and go branch out to my pin tech company and as well as training recruiting creation jobs. So and as I'm an immigrant, so I have a global background. First, I'm more interesting to solve globally because I know more global knowledge and experience. Second of all, you know, I. My issues, my top prior issue that education jack educations and calculations as economic growth in the health system and the and legal immigrations. I am the immigration nowadays more immigrations person like me. Understand immigrations, how difficult to come into here, make American dream come true as an immigration. I think in Congress need to voice more immigration voice as well as a California population is so many immigration, but I think the California need to represent more immigration voice. I support it. Don't act president. Don't act. I will. Great president. Don't let America first. But I, I'm also supporting America first insider had a immigration because this our country or immigration order from even our ancestor from England from Mayflower to coming your day. We are we are all the population is immigration or the net or the international. Country here, so I think myself I am more like can proactively be represent people as a federal level than local level, uh, because I, I, I have a more spirit special. Background than other people because most people they are local. They are localized represent, but I am really already got to give it to me very globalized and get very domestic and even United States in all of place. I went neither. Those are pin tech company and education, you know, training people. So I think I am more fit than. Speed you know, federal level than local level. Yes. That's why I'm learning as,

Gene: 34:52

see. Okay. Um, yeah, that makes sense. So you mentioned immigration and I'm in Texas here. And obviously we've got a, a pretty major issue with the number of illegal aliens crossing across the border here in Texas. And the Democrat solution is, well, let's just. Make them all citizens don't worry about who came in or how they came in now you as somebody who is a legal immigrant to this country, um, you have to go through a lot of. Bureaucracy, I would say, in order to become a U. S. citizen. Um, what, what is your take on what's going on at the border right now?

Dr. Sarah Sun Liew: 35:36

yeah. You know why in California, you know, we are as I'm a candidate Republican party. Our Republican party is really pro-immigrant, but that pro-immigrant means really immigrant. We got immigration. We are very pro and we support like, like I'm a immigration consultant since I opened my company 2013 and I legal service as well as immigration. I see so many immigrations. We should. Pro immigration need more rapidly processing to the real pro immigration step. But now is we, we say pro immigration, but our system is outdated. You know, our immigration take even family 10 year, 20 year. And as well as all processing is at least five years get the green card. And so this is make people more like illegal immigrations because people even stay in America. They become easily illegally, but that's why we have to really immigration reformed that make faster, you know, visa processing, green card processing, get up. early citizens to get the vote because in order to become citizen vote take 10 years after even green card they have to take five years to be green citizen and vote so you know we should have some immigration those million people they want to make American dreams come true easily but we should support immigration policy Those are more like people come, welcomes, but however, I'm against the illegal immigration coming to here undocumented illegally, those people are million, million now is uncontrolled border because of Biden administrations. There are those policies. You know, make able to do cross all the way illegals, undocumented, and uncontrolled for us, make today's, you know, sexual traffics, as well as all the, you know, terrorist, and we don't know all the criminal. We call like, I heard that Tucker Carlson show sad. Although the people is not immigrant, they are criminals, you know, they are illegals. So, so I am really a fight for that. Yeah.

Gene: 38:16

Yeah, and, and you know, the language has been changed like it has for a lot of things. For 200 years, we did not call people that snuck through the border immigrants because they're not. What we called them was illegal aliens. And we had a programs to apprehend illegal aliens and then return them back across the border right now with the policy of the Democrats to simply import voters that are not U. S. citizens, but will vote for Democrats with that being their policy, they're now changing the language and then starting to call them well, they're immigrants just like everybody else. No, they're not. Everybody that came From other countries legally had to go through a process. They were identified. They were fingerprinted. Their photos were taken. They had to wait. Like you said, To get their green cards and work permits. And once that happened, you had to show that for five years that you were not a criminal, you weren't brought in to um, or rather you, you weren't a part of a criminal enterprise that you hadn't. Been charged with a felony, and if you were not a criminal, then in five years you could apply to become a U. S. citizen. Democrats don't want that. What they want is more votes. They don't care where they come from. They don't care what these people do. They don't care what the religion of these people tells them to do. They don't care if these people want to destroy America. They don't care about any of these things. So, um, you know, I guess my question to you with that is if you were in the Senate right now, what would you be trying to do to reduce this, this flow of illegal aliens coming across the border?

Dr. Sarah Sun Liew: 40:04

Yeah. First of all, you know, I want to mention that no, not legal said that a nation that cannot control. It's border is not a nation. So I, you know, I think that is a really good one. First, we have to ensure our immigration law ahead before this happen. So if I am in Congress right now, I will emphasize that we have to ensure immigration law ahead to not allowed any. Immigrations like today's, you know, across on voter, you know, this is really this is a disaster to us. So our current immigration policy, we have to really more than one feasible immigration policy. So I'll make to change those steps toward it to our modern world. But all the immigration policies outdate yesterday. And even not the people yesterday, so we have to fix those out this immigration policies as well as we have the border secure. We have a right. Absolutely. Our country, our California residents have absolutely right to protect our border. So I will, you know, push all the views. As well as all the power to make sure absolutely our right exercise to protect our border. You know, same time we have to really supporting immigration policy would permit legal entry as a, like as a worker, as family members. You know, they must have a really reliable. Permitted from legal system allowed it to come to easily come. I will make those reform make easy polish to come who are qualified, who are legally come to permitted America. So, we have to really support to those employment. I will going to more support the employment to nationalized e verification system, which is we can see those people who are legal or legal. What, you know, maybe E verification, not only employee system, we have E employee verification system, but all system we need verify each person, not only employer systems necessarily, you know, systems we can access all those easily who is legal, who is legal, who is a real. Person coming legally, and we have to penalize, you know, penalty who are who coming to illegally. We should have had an increasing penalty. Overstayed because he who someone stay in overstay or who someone you know, illegally coming, we should give us some damn penalty. But nowadays we are not. We give even welcome to them as well as who are violations who are claiming. You know, even I saw yesterday in TV three, four, like illegal immigration, they are beating police officer, but no one they are just, they are not custody. They just go home, even that they don't home. But anyway, so we have to really, those who are violation in criminal undocumented, you know, illegal persons, we have to really Penalize or something legally need to protect our taxpayer citizens from afraid of those illegal persons. So I will make sure that you know, those criminal violation is, not happen. Our citizens and then as well as we should refuse those sexual traffics, drug traffics and mafias as well as a communist as well as you know, terrorists coming from. We have to make those federal laws pushing out, you know, and then making sure our citizens. Not in risk. Yeah,

Gene: 44:18

Um, I don't know if you've heard, I, I, I would assume you've heard that Ilan Omar did a speech where she talked about basically using her role in the, um, in Congress to make sure that Somali interests are very important and they're protected by America. Essentially, she's acting as somebody who is working for Somalia. In the U. S. Government rather than somebody working for the state of Minnesota in the U. S. Government. Um, have you, first of all, I guess, have you heard that? Have you seen any videos about that? It happened probably about a week ago or so that she gave that speech. And what is your opinion on that? If you have,

Dr. Sarah Sun Liew: 45:04

I think you know, our Congress is one of they have power to speak out, but everything is you know, whatever the Congress persons talk, they're in just in, everything for America first, you know, America, just because on America virtual now for, you know, all the, we, we, we, we, we support as alliance, allying to all the country, I'm Korean American, I support Korean, I understand why she support her own you know, entity, own, you know, country or what the latest benefit constitution. You know, allowed it to do. But anyway, what she said or what she mentioned is that it's not constitutional allowed. I don't support what she said, but anyway, everything in Congress, make sure just think about all of it to every person, not only one group, so not only one person, we support innovations you know, everything all the kind of issues, all kind of We should you know, reasonably speech as Congress woman. Not only individual, not only individual business, not only in one place to benefit. So she needed some balancing out to her speedy and you know, reasonable. We have the limitations, what the Congress left to speak you know, in just justice in all the people. And then, you know, we find the unnecessary discovery a while. You know, we have to, we have to, excuse me, we have to really practice well, uh, in the Congress not miscommunications or, you know, we have to really need we have the favors, reasonable and consistent standard for, you know, avoid our country damages and we should you know, Internationally, and not misconduct any speech in Congress. Yeah,

Gene: 47:21

okay, that makes sense. So let me let me ask you a, um, a sensitive question, I guess I would say. But I know it's one that people that are listening to the podcast are thinking themselves. So I'm going to go ahead and ask do you think the fact that you have an accent in English is problematic for you from a campaigning standpoint? So even if you can do the job fine. Do you think that it causes, um, fewer people to listen to your message because you're speaking with an accent or do you think in California that it's really not a, not going to affect you in any way whatsoever. Okay.

Dr. Sarah Sun Liew: 48:05

to if they're a borough who speak English well, they should vote for English teacher. But English teacher, yeah, does not have a like my background, right? So vice versa, you know, if they looking for good English speaker, I'm just tired and vote for English teacher. But they don't have those benefit what I have it, all the background, except those English. Like everyone is immigrant. I know the, I don't want to talk about this one. Even you know, Congresswoman Michelle Steele, you know, he had, she had a hard time last election because of the the, another Democrat party said, the, you know, candidate said, I don't understand Michelle Steele's English. You know, whenever she talk more and more and more, I am win, but this is a, you know, we have to really, uh, think about, you know, people is there is a disadvantage and other advantages, you know, not only thinking about English because every immigration is they are not perfect because they are even American. If they said, because you are not perfect English, I asked them, can you speak in Korean? Even. So, you know, why we should have balancing seeing candidate to, you know, their heart. And even, you know, we have a more like everything is educated about, everything is you know, coachable. The person, everything, they are effort, you know, we have the things is Congress. As a candidate, we should compassion, empathy, effort, and try to record what they have. That is more important than English skill. But English skill is so important, you know, priority, too, because we have to speech message out. But I don't think so. Because of English, mostly in the level of those candidates, I think. Their English, at least 90 and 95 percent is okay, but they, they other party, other party, they have more like advantage things have than other candidate. So we have to consider those advantage if they have only disadvantage one English. I don't think that is effective. So we should when we, when we elected as who are. Foreign country, like, like immigration, we are more proud of voice of immigrant person. Like, I'm immigrant. I can be voice of immigrant. I'm Korean American. Not only American, you know, we understand all the immigration issue. I can speak of more, but someone who work from America, they speak very well because born here, they don't understand immigration issue. They are not in immigration. So we have the vice versa. We should all the peoples need a voice out. We need all the people represent. So if the person is not really speak very well, you know, because of English, I don't think so that is like number one qualifier or disqualifier matter. So we should show that here we are. I didn't even understand that completely, not 100%, but still like her voice. You know, issues really fight for her heart is really fight for. I think there is a more like a value than. Just calculations speak English speaker. Why not? Why don't you hire, you know, the person who speak not good, well, you know, we hire, you know, speak coach. It's solved just a few months, but the things is building personality, building compassion, empathy, all the life history. It's not take, it's take like almost 30 years. You know, that's what I want to say. Yeah.

Gene: 52:17

Great. Um, so let's repeat one more time where people can get ahold of you. It looks like probably the easiest way is to go through Sarah. Senator dot org. That's your website, right?

Dr. Sarah Sun Liew: 52:29

Yes.

Gene: 52:31

Mm hmm. And then, um, you have a contact email on there. Info at Sarah Senator dot org. Is there any other

Dr. Sarah Sun Liew: 52:41

Yeah. I have info info at Dr. Sarah for us. Congress. com. Yeah, that also another. So I wish everyone for for, you know. Right. Political leaders who had a compassion, empathy and has a real voice. I am being not just one one circle of the election. I've been almost 60 since 1990. Before that, even since, even, you know, 2019, I'm learning Congressional office. I, I learned several local, but my heart, my conviction, my empathy is there as well as my effort. You know, here, so you can see through the website, you can see the video posting all over, but I hope you know, already had a May ballot. I hopefully I elected to really support in California and all of the world and United States, especially in donut. I, I go to next week meeting to our great president or natural. I want everyone photo, not Trump as well. Not only don't. You know, depends what you are to the president I don't know what Donald Trump is. I'm just Republican. I believe him to will be best president in United States because now we have so many criticism, business, immigrations, educations, has, and all of the real estate law, all of you know, you can see at the top five priority as well as I have a same like Donald Trump had a President Donald Trump 47 agenda. I have my own agenda as a candidate of the U. S. Senate. And I wish you all you're watching YouTube. Thank you so much. You invited me to your show. I'm so thank you for your contribution to your show to voice out as like candidate me. So thank you for

Gene: 54:46

Yeah. Well, thank you for being on. It's always good to have people that are wanting to push things into the right direction. And certainly politically, I think we're very much on the same side here. Um, so again, the website is, sarah senator dot org, all the other links you guys can find through that website as well. There's also a contribution link if anyone wants to make any contributions to her campaign as well. Thanks for being on

Dr. Sarah Sun Liew: 55:15

thank you so much. Thank you.